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Comment author: shminux 04 July 2012 06:51:40PM *  4 points [-]

The lowest quartile presumably would never have been able to master many of these rules in the first place. Some of the information resembles the stuff that a friend of mine experienced when he went in to do tutoring for disadvantaged students in Boston when he was getting his doctorate at MIT. At first my friend was totally taken aback at the level of ignorance (e.g., the inability to see the relationship between 1/10 and 10/100).

Again, from my experience, most can master it, given some 100x the effort and time investment by both teacher and student, compared to those somewhat above average. It took one of my students about 3 years and countless problems to get comfortable with percents (e.g. to calculate sale price). The skill seemed there for a short time after learning, then dissipated after a while, reverting to the old "I don't understand percents!" mental block.

Whether such an investment is worthwhile is a different story.

Comment author: James_Miller 05 July 2012 07:41:53AM 3 points [-]

Whether such an investment is worthwhile is a different story.

No, and it's child abuse when schools put enormous pressure on low IQ children to learn this kind of stuff.

Comment author: shminux 05 July 2012 03:18:03PM *  2 points [-]

No, and it's child abuse when schools put enormous pressure on low IQ children to learn this kind of stuff.

I mean people who have low aptitude for math, and whose general intelligence (IQ) may well be above average.

For example, were singing mandatory for graduation, I would have had trouble finishing school, because I cannot hold a tune if my life depended on it. Well, as I said, I could have probably learned it with 1000x the time/effort/investment of your average person, but it would be silly to require that.