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Comment author: TimS 05 July 2012 11:22:52PM 1 point [-]

objectively possible to determine what these [values] are

I agree that it is possible to figure out an agent's terminal values by observing their behavior and such, but I don't understand what work the word "objectively" is doing in that sentence.

Comment author: Jack 06 July 2012 12:29:35AM *  1 point [-]

I don't understand what work the word "objectively" is doing in that sentence.

Most people, as this thread has exhibited, don't understand what the word means or at least not what it means in phases like "objective moral facts".

Comment author: TimS 06 July 2012 01:28:12AM 1 point [-]

Given the amount of discussion of applied-morality concepts like Friendliness and CEV, I had higher expectations.

Comment author: drethelin 06 July 2012 02:30:28AM 0 points [-]

Basically it means that even though moralities may be subjective I think statements like "that's wrong" or "that's the right thing to do" are useful, even if at base meaningless.

Comment author: mwengler 10 July 2012 02:14:34PM 2 points [-]

The idea that a meaningless statement can be useful represents a fundamental misunderstanding of what the word "meaningless" means.

If a statement is useful, it must have meaning, or else there would be nothing there to use.

Comment author: Jack 10 July 2012 02:30:34PM -1 points [-]

I think he means "don't refer to anything" rather than "meaningless".