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Xachariah comments on Stupid Questions Open Thread Round 3 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Xachariah 08 July 2012 08:10:34PM *  2 points [-]

The transition between T1 and T2 evidently has something to do with the transient belief that her silence was worth $4k/week

Sorry. I think I communicated unclearly, which is the danger of using stories instead of examples and is my fault entirely. At the very start of the story, Julia learns about your wife at the same time she learns about the lottery. She had previously thought you were single and the new information shifted her preference ordering.

Regarding the example you used (oil company & energy), I also hold it is not blackmail. If I use the previous definition of Blackmail being the act of making an attempt to get money in exchange for not revealing information, then the attempt is the crucial part in this case (whether it succeeds or not). The oil company offering me money is okay; me trying to get money out of the oil company is blackmail.

Comment author: wedrifid 09 July 2012 02:02:04AM 5 points [-]

The oil company offering me money is okay; me trying to get money out of the oil company is blackmail.

And also sometimes okay. The distinction isn't "okay" vs blackmail. It is blackmail vs not-blackmail and "okay" vs not-okay.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 09 July 2012 12:04:48AM 0 points [-]

(nods) As noted elsewhere, I missed this and was entirely mistaken about Julia's motives. I stand corrected. You were perfectly clear, I just wasn't reading attentively enough.

Re: blackmail... OK. So, if I develop the technology and I approach the oil company and say "I have this technology, I'll guarantee you exclusive rights to it for $N/week," that's blackmail?

Comment author: Xachariah 09 July 2012 12:54:08AM 0 points [-]

I'd say it's much closer to blackmail than the original oil company scenario.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 09 July 2012 01:13:25AM 0 points [-]

I suppose I agree with that, but I wouldn't call either of them blackmail. Would you?