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OrphanWilde comments on In Defense of Tone Arguments - Less Wrong Discussion

24 Post author: OrphanWilde 19 July 2012 07:48PM

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Comment author: OrphanWilde 19 July 2012 08:21:54PM *  0 points [-]

That only holds true if that is, in fact, what the arguer is arguing.

What's more likely, however? A Bayesian rationalist who is rationalizing on a well-known logical fallacy, and publicly announcing it? Or somebody who is irritated with you for damaging the reputation of your in-group or the terms of the debate?

[Edit] Or, to put it more deliberately - read the final paragraph. You're starting from the assumption that the arguer is doing just that. You're starting from the unfounded presumption that a tone argument is a dismissal of the argument.

Comment author: thomblake 19 July 2012 08:52:24PM 5 points [-]

You're starting from the unfounded presumption that a tone argument is a dismissal of the argument.

Yes, that last bit is super-important.

Comment author: TimS 19 July 2012 11:47:49PM *  2 points [-]

And often true.

Edit: More thorough analysis here