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David_Gerard comments on In Defense of Tone Arguments - Less Wrong Discussion

24 Post author: OrphanWilde 19 July 2012 07:48PM

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Comment author: David_Gerard 20 July 2012 09:50:14AM *  1 point [-]

Talking past each other. The conventional use is to protest tone being used as an excuse not to listen to an opponent. Dissent being perceived as rudeness.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 21 July 2012 02:01:03AM *  1 point [-]

I've seen it split. You need to pay close attention.

For example, if Alice and Bob are both arguing in favor of the same proposition for some time, then at one point Bob suggests that Alice has just had a tone problem... it's much less likely to be concern trolling.

Alternately, if Bob, while mentioning Alice's tone, restates Alice's argument in such a way that it still means the same thing, but is more palatable, she might want to consider the possibility that he's not trying to undermine her arguments.

Lastly, if Bob has come across Alice and Carla arguing against each other and says that they're BOTH messing up the tone, assuming he's on one side or the other seems a mite premature.

Instantly deducing that someone is a concern troll for mentioning tone, prejudicially to all other evidence, is a mistake.