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I fear you are too late: it's a meaning the word has in English now, and it's one that's actually useful.
The English language is not homogeneous. It's only useful among that set of people who agree with that meaning; considering this is also the set that agrees with you about your arguments, the word has no business being in any arguments meant to convince people you're correct.
This reads like an attempt to say "words mean what me and my friends want them to mean" as a response to "it's technical jargon with a particular and useful meaning". I appreciate you don't want the term to exist, but it still does.
A response to "It's technical jargon with a particular and useful meaning" would have been "Technical jargon shouldn't be used in arguing with the public." That is not, in fact, the statement which I was responding to.
Where did you get that from? It's not in evidence from the point you're replying to.
This is probably the wrong place to talk about language, but I encourage you to look up how language actually works in the wild, both among small cultures and large populations. You may find that your phrase: "words mean what me and my friends want them to mean," is a surprisingly accurate description of language.
Yes, but that doesn't mean "and therefore not what your friends and this substantially well-documented academic usage want them to mean". I figured that bit was implied.
Arguably useful, but it has such a tendency to derail that I suspect it's much more marginal than it really ought to be.
It's technical jargon that escaped.