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shminux comments on Smart non-reductionists, philosophical vs. engineering mindsets, and religion - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: shminux 06 August 2012 07:18:11AM *  0 points [-]

The current setup discourages explanations of downvoting, as it makes the downvoter vulnerable to losing karma. It's not going to change, so just live with it.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 06 August 2012 09:01:17AM *  2 points [-]

The current setup discourages explanations of downvoting, as it makes the downvoter vulnerable to losing karma.

I don't think so. It's the very implication that downvoting requires explanation that's discouraged, since its presence would increase the cost of downvoting. If there is a social norm of explaining your downvotes, or of explaining them when asked to, then downvoting carries an obligation to also write an explaining comment (perhaps on request), which some downvoters won't be willing to spend effort on (or get involved in), and wouldn't downvote as a result. But they want to be able to signal disapproval cheaply, hence the comments that appeal to (and so strengthen if approved) the hypothetical social norm of requiring an explanation would also be downvoted.

Comment author: wedrifid 06 August 2012 09:56:51AM 1 point [-]

The current setup discourages explanations of downvoting, as it makes the downvoter vulnerable to losing karma.

Or gaining it.