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18 Post author: Mitchell_Porter 08 August 2012 01:16PM

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Comment author: Kingoftheinternet 08 August 2012 02:29:49PM 10 points [-]

the problem with state-machine materialism is not that it models the world in terms of causal interactions between things-with-states; the problem is that it can't go any deeper than that, yet apparently we can.

I may have missed the part where you explained why qualia can't fit into a state machine-model of the universe. Where does the incompatibility come from? I'm aware that it looks like no human-designed mathematical objects have experienced qualia yet, which is some level of evidence for it being impossible, but not so strong that I think you're justified in saying a materialist/mathematical platonist view of reality can never account for conscious experiences.

Comment author: dbc 08 August 2012 03:17:07PM 6 points [-]

I may have missed the part where you explained why qualia can't fit into a state machine-model of the universe.

I think Mitchell's point is that we don't know whether state-machines have qualia, and the costs of making assumptions could be large.