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Comment author: JGWeissman 31 August 2012 07:42:09PM 1 point [-]

How would you feel about the $5 per account option?

Any other ideas on how someone could signal that the account they are creating is not yet another sock puppet or identity reset that you would be comfortable with? Maybe associating your account with your website?

I'm thinking the phone idea, if it is used at all, should be one of several options, so the user can choose one that works for them.

Comment author: Alicorn 31 August 2012 07:48:56PM *  4 points [-]

By strong default, I do not pay money for Internet intangibles, but $5 is low enough that I think we might see people buying accounts for their likely-valuable-commenter friends or something, so I'm not quite so opposed (but I think it would sharply slow community growth, and prevent people who we'd love to have around - like folks whose books get reviewed here - from dropping in to just say a few things).

I wouldn't mind associating my website with my account - I already do, now that that's an available field. But even fewer people have websites than phones.

Wouldn't some kind of IP address thing suffice to rule out casually created socks?

Comment author: DanArmak 31 August 2012 08:13:42PM 2 points [-]

Wouldn't some kind of IP address thing suffice to rule out casually created socks?

It would have false positives due to people sharing public IPs (but not computers) on workplace or campus networks.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 01 September 2012 01:22:36PM 3 points [-]

And due to e.g. family members sharing IPs and computers.

Comment author: JGWeissman 31 August 2012 08:05:50PM 1 point [-]

like folks whose books get reviewed here

This is an important point, we should be welcoming to people we talk about, and I'm not sure how that fits in to any scheme. Send out preemptive invitations when we talk about people? Who would keep on top of that?

I wouldn't mind associating my website with my account - I already do, now that that's an available field. But even fewer people have websites than phones.

Well, that was the result of me trying to find a mechanism that wouldn't exclude you. But if we let people associate their account with a phone or a website, we include more people. It would be better to have more options to be more inclusive, if we can think of more specific options.

Wouldn't some kind of IP address thing suffice to rule out casually created socks?

Yes, for certain values of casual. You can hide your IP address by going through proxies.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 01 September 2012 04:07:55AM 2 points [-]

How would you feel about the $5 per account option?

That would show up on my credit card bill, which may cause certain inconveniences and I suspect we have people for whom that would cause a lot more than an inconvenience.