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32 Post author: Mitchell_Porter 05 September 2012 03:55PM

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Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 06 September 2012 02:27:13PM -2 points [-]

You don't smuggle it in as an ansatz.

You apply the generalized anti-zombie principle. There was a reason he went there first.

Comment author: Mitchell_Porter 06 September 2012 04:37:35PM 2 points [-]

But that just tells you that other branches are conscious too. It doesn't give you the Born rule. So it is an ansatz, it's a guess about what formula to use. And until you can derive it from the unitary evolution rule, it counts separately towards the complexity of your model.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 06 September 2012 09:05:56PM *  0 points [-]

If you get as far as allowing that the other branches are conscious - no, simply that you even HAVE branches, and they should be related by probabilities that don't change retroactively - then you have been granted sufficient grounds to derive the Born Rule.

It's getting that far that's the hard part.

EDIT: I've provided this derivation already, here Does that help?