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63 Post author: iceman 08 September 2012 06:16AM

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Comment author: iceman 09 September 2012 03:34:51AM 2 points [-]

From a throwaway line in the ending, I assume we're supposed to find her embittered and flawed with smoking as a prop. But it doesn't really work.

You are correct that this was my intention. In an earlier version, the final scene had her smoking, because if she valued smoking, Princess Celestia wouldn't have copied the negative health effects. The paragraph didn't really help the scene so I cut it. Since you're the second person to find the smoking a turn off, I'll consider cutting it.

Can you suggest a nervous, compulsive tick? Tea doesn't strike me as a compulsion.

It's pretty good but somehow I feel a certain lack of narrative drive from chapter to chapter aside from the question of 'what will Celestia do next?'

This is probably an artifact of how it was written. Most of the chapters were disconnected scenes that I wrote, without much planning. Only early this year did I start taking the individual scenes and stitched them into a whole piece. (If I write another piece of medium to long form fiction, I'll make sure to not repeat this process; I'm not entirely happy with said process.)

Comment author: gwern 09 September 2012 03:54:58PM *  3 points [-]

Another thought about that ending, actually: the employees can force Celestia to tell the truth, but surely they have other powers like giving orders? Do they retain the powers when uploaded? They're mentally the same person after all, and it wouldn't make sense for Celestia to try to optimize then if she's killing them when uploading. Easier to just make more NPC ponies, if that counts.

If they retain such powers, then they represent the single greatest threat to Celestia after the Rapture, and we might expect more modification. For example, Celestia might steer Lars into not just accepting being a pony - but forgetting about his human life (including his dangerous status as an employee). And was Hanna originally a lesbian? But now she really loves her little alicorn...

Also, the ordering of chapters was kind of odd. I'd put the 'celestial' view point at the very end, for example.

Comment author: Alicorn 09 September 2012 05:01:52PM 9 points [-]

I liked the chapter ordering once I figured it out. It's another way to balance between "sinister" and "happy ponies" more evenly. "Aaaah she's eating the universe!... Oh right, people live in that all-devouring computronium."

Comment author: Ritalin 29 October 2012 11:08:53PM 0 points [-]

Nothing wrong with organizing that mess. Maybe she'll find a way to beat entropy, eventually.