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Thomas comments on Eliezer's Sequences and Mainstream Academia - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Thomas 15 September 2012 07:30:44AM 0 points [-]

What is originally his? AFAIK the FOOM and the Friendliness are his.

I am just curious.

Comment author: CarlShulman 15 September 2012 09:20:57AM 9 points [-]

Eliezer credits Nick Bostrom with coming up with the idea of Friendly AI first (and indeed while Eliezer was indifferent to AI risk on the assumption that either superintelligences would be automatically supermoral or it didn't matter what happened). FOOM probably goes to I.J. Good, or SF (Eliezer found out about the idea of a technological singularity by reading Vernor Vinge's science fiction, and closely related ideas are decades older in SF).

Comment author: knb 15 September 2012 09:16:22AM 6 points [-]

FOOM (AKA Intelligence Explosion) was formulated by I.J. Good about 50 years ago.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 15 September 2012 02:12:54PM 4 points [-]

...and pre-formulated by John W. Campbell, a famous science-fiction editor.

Comment author: Thomas 15 September 2012 10:12:36AM *  -1 points [-]

Maybe it is just me. But as I understood I.J. Good's intelligence explosion is much more "Kurzweilian". Happens as a consequence of some large improvement all over the place. While for the Yudkowsky's FOOM, a right binary string in the RAM of the PC from 2000 would suffice to blow us away.

I think, that the computer may need to be from today, or even from tomorrow, but this does not change much.

Comment author: timtyler 16 September 2012 04:10:12PM *  -2 points [-]

You would need improvements in both software and hardware to compete with natural nanotechnology at its best.

Improvements in software would catalyse improvements in hardware - and visa versa. I think most of the parties involved are on the same page about all this.