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ArisKatsaris comments on Could evolution have selected for moral realism? - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: ArisKatsaris 04 October 2012 07:07:52PM 1 point [-]

Moral realism IS the idea that there are things that are actually wrong.

Okay, yes. I agree with that statement.

If you are a moral realist, and you provide a mechanism for listing some moral truths, then you pretty much by definition are wrong, immoral, if you do not align your action with those moral truths.

Well, I guess we can indeed define an "immoral" person as someone who does morally wrong things; though a more useful definition would probably be to define an immoral person as someone who does them more so than average. So?

If you think you can be a "moral realist" without agreeing that it is immoral to break or not follow a moral truth

It's reasonable to define an action as "immoral" if it breaks or doesn't follow a moral truth.

But how in the word are you connecting these definitions to all your earlier implications about pretending dissenters don't exist, or killing them and then pretending they never existed in the first place?

Fine, lots of people do immoral things. Lots of people are immoral. How does this "is" statement by itself, indicate anything about whether we ought ignore said people, execute them, or hug and kiss them? It doesn't say anything about how we should treat immoral people, or how we should respond to the immoral actions of others.

I'm the moral realist here, but it's you who seem to be deriving specific "ought" statements from my "is" statements.