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palladias comments on Open Thread, October 1-15, 2012 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: wedrifid 02 October 2012 03:47:55PM *  2 points [-]

This doesn't raise the sanity waterline at all.

Yes it does. I think you need to read it again a couple of times and maybe a few OvercomingBias posts.

Unless the person is part of a very dangerous Jim Jones style of religion, what's the point?

It makes no difference to the point whether the religion is dangerous, admirable or even the literally correct and the path to eternal bliss. Thoughts about tribal affiliations typically matter more than abstract reasoning when it comes to this kind of belief.

Comment author: palladias 02 October 2012 04:35:22PM 3 points [-]

Maybe I misunderstood. It sounded like you were suggesting that theists be baited with a honeypot (mate or group) that they'd like to be attractive to. The pressure to be liked would cause them to abandon their beliefs. I'm not saying this can't work, but it's a transformational pressure that works equally well in both directions. The person isn't better informed at the end of it, they're just trying to fit in with a group that happens to be more accurate.

(If atheism highly correlated with sexiness, maybe this would pull more people out of religion than in, but, in fact, religions are better at being organized into tribes with status anyway)

But, I think, given your response, that I've misread you. Can you correct me?

Comment author: wedrifid 02 October 2012 04:48:00PM 0 points [-]

It sounded like you were suggesting that theists be baited with a honeypot (mate or group) that they'd like to be attractive to.

It'd work, sure. Doesn't sound like a good use of my time.