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johnlawrenceaspden comments on Open Thread, October 1-15, 2012 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: drethelin 06 October 2012 02:00:30AM 2 points [-]

Most people are terrible. It's a lot of work to sort the awesome people from the terrible people. I've had good luck using "gamer" "geek", "queer", and "kinky" as labels that tend to more reliably apply to interesting people or people I'm happy to get along with, but your mileage may vary. Every single one of my room-mates plays or used to play Magic the Gathering, for example.

Not making friends with the random people around you in college who are into drinking, sports, and dehumanizing women is, in my mind, a good sign. You shouldn't force yourself to try and make friends with people who don't share interests with you, or at least are interesting to talk to. Try talking to the people you see who are actively weird.

Comment author: johnlawrenceaspden 15 October 2012 01:08:57PM 1 point [-]

Most people are terrible.

Hang on. Most people are really nice. Most put a confident facade over a good nature. Most are a bit lonely, unsure of their own value, and mainly worried about how other people see them. Most are full of interesting thoughts that they are shy to express in front of strangers. Most young people are idealistic to the point of charming naivety.

dehumanizing women

And the women. The ones being dehumanized. Who are they hanging out with? The evil dehumanizers, or the self-righteous nerds, full of anger, staring sullenly and lustfully at them from the corners?

Comment author: drethelin 15 October 2012 11:04:34PM 2 points [-]

Terrible is hyperbole. Most people, even though they're nice, or secretly have interesting thoughts or whatever feel good stuff you say is true about them, are not going to be fun for me to hang out with.

Since when did I recommend being a lustful sullen staring cornernerd?

Comment author: TimS 15 October 2012 01:38:25PM 1 point [-]

And the women. The ones being dehumanized. Who are they hanging out with?

You are reading a little more judgment into the post that I think is intended.

The women (and people generally) that are going to be enjoyable to spend time with are not hanging out with the hyper-masculine jocks. There's no shame in noticing that, and picking social groups accordingly in order to try to find social companions. Particularly because the jocks are particularly poor at being reflective about their own social skills and the social skills of others.