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ArisKatsaris comments on Open Thread, October 1-15, 2012 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: ArisKatsaris 15 October 2012 09:39:00PM *  1 point [-]

That seems a bit unfair.

It's even more unfair to carelessly bestow genetical deficiencies on one's children. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_St%C3%BCbing - "The older two children suffer from severe physical and mental disabilities. The third child was born with a heart condition but is healthy after undergoing a heart transplant"

Actually given further information in that page, and after learning how the woman was still a minor at the beginning of their relationship, I withdraw my hypothetical "applauding" anyway; though at least on 2004 the man finally did undergo a vasectomy.

just because some people are freaked out by them?

Downvoted: I don't see how you could have legitimately misinterpreted my words to mean that people being freaked out is the reason I offered for their need for birth control.

Comment author: johnlawrenceaspden 16 October 2012 12:24:23PM -1 points [-]

Lots of downvotes. So do we think there's a good case for coercive eugenics here then? That's got a sort of Schelling-pointy feel to it to me, so that I wonder if prohibiting incest might actually be the lesser of two evils.

If a case can be made for coercive eugenics here, where else can it be made? And how does the incest ick-factor influence the arguments?

Do people without siblings feel the ick-factor? Or do you need personal experience of the Westermarck effect?

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 16 October 2012 01:22:43PM -1 points [-]

So do we think there's a good case for coercive eugenics here then? That's got a sort of Schelling-pointy feel to it to me, so that I wonder if prohibiting incest might actually be the lesser of two evils.

If we're comparing two "coercions" (coercive prohibition of incestuous couples from having children) (coercive prohibition of incestuous couples from having sex), the former seems to be the lesser coercion by far, and the more easily justified.

So is it "coercive" part of "coercive eugenics" that really bugs you, or is it that you have an ick-factor against eugenics altogether, voluntary eugenics too?