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5 Post author: Stuart_Armstrong 05 October 2012 02:46PM

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Comment author: [deleted] 08 October 2012 05:03:35AM 1 point [-]

Humans have a meta-proof that all Gödel sentences are true.

That's not true. Gödel sentences are true for (most?) consistent systems, and false for all inconsistent systems.

Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 08 October 2012 08:35:31AM 0 points [-]

Truth and falsity in an inconsistent system is a bit of a weird concept.

Comment author: Kindly 08 October 2012 02:56:28PM 1 point [-]

To be more specific: Gödel sentences are true within inconsistent systems (because of explosion) but if we give them a meta-interpretation then they are false about inconsistent systems.

Comment author: [deleted] 08 October 2012 07:20:11PM 0 points [-]

Truth within a consistent system is a bit of a weird concept as well. Is the continuum hypothesis true within ZFC? The question isn't actually meaningful; the continuum hypothesis is true within some models of ZFC, and false within others.