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Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 11 October 2012 05:34:25AM *  0 points [-]

The secret of happiness is: Find something more important than you are and dedicate your life to it.

-- Daniel Dennet

I think it's possible that a utility-maximizing lifestyle can actually be fairly hedon-maximizing, especially if you take periodic breaks and vacations (which are optimal for achieving high energy and motivation anyway, in my experience).

I think the real thing to keep in mind re: fuzzies and utilons may not be that you should always purchase them separately. (What's wrong with a package deal?) Rather, I think it's that you should operate under some utility function that's a compromise of fuzzies and utilons, instead of aiming for just one or the other (and potentially leaving yourself open to periodic, messy willpower failures/preference reversals).

What would it be like to not have a purpose in life? When I was in high school, trying to decide what I wanted to be when I "grew up", thinking about my career was not fun. I knew I wanted to do something that I would enjoy, but my preferences didn't seem very stable--the appeal of different careers seemed to change hour to hour. I actually found refocusing on the goal of earning to give liberating. Now choosing a career meant analyzing external factors like earnings potential instead of my own unstable whims.

BTW, 80K have a bunch of blog posts on career choice and happiness:

Even if you have no altruistic inclinations whatsoever, though, I suspect high-paying careers are a good default because more money means more options. (Though this advice may only apply to people who are frugal; others may see their required standard of living rise with their income.)

See also: http://lesswrong.com/lw/bfy/you_only_live_once_a_reframing_of_working_towards/

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 11 October 2012 09:05:24AM *  0 points [-]

I think the real thing to keep in mind re: fuzzies and utilons may not be that you should always purchase them separately. (What's wrong with a package deal?)

I thought the article about fuzzies and utilons was essentially a warning that, at least for the author of the article, package deals are strictly worse. Which may be different for different people.

The reasons is that mere checking for utilon-efficiency of the package deal kills some of the fuzzies. By mere checking whether your package deal is utilon-good, you are making it fuzzies-worse. On the other hand, if you don't check it, it could be utilon-worse, and you wouldn't know it.

That's why the recommended solution is to buy a greater thoroughly examined utilon component, and a lesser unexamined fuzzies component separately.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 12 October 2012 12:41:31AM 0 points [-]

The secret of happiness is: Find something more important than you are and dedicate your life to it.

The problem is that this is true whether the cause makes the world better or worse.

Comment author: diegocaleiro 12 October 2012 05:17:29AM 0 points [-]

To quote Dennett on Happiness is a kind of practical joke I guess.

Dennett is magnificent, brilliant, engaging, fully white bearded, santa-claus like.

The one thing he is not is a happiness expert, specially a first person happiness expert.

In fact, of my intelectual idols (Chronologically listed): Nietzsche, Russell, Woody Allen, Miyazaki, Dennett, Roger Waters, Bostrom, Yudkoskwy. I would consider only Russell and Allen have interesting linguistic lessons with regards to happiness.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 12 October 2012 08:03:42PM 0 points [-]

To quote Dennett on Happiness is a kind of practical joke I guess.

It was only supposed to be a data point.

I definitely think you should try to take some kind of vacation soon, regardless of your plans for after that.