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ryjm comments on Rationality, Transhumanism, and Mental Health - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: ryjm 15 October 2012 06:49:29PM 3 points [-]

He is older than 23 per this comment. But reading his posts, either you have some extremely high standards for high school students or I am terrible at estimating someone's level of education. (Unless you were measuring emotional maturity somehow).

In any case, I would find it pretty disheartening if someone asked me if I was in high school in a post about my own mental health. I'm sure you didn't mean to be rude, but I find it hard to believe that this response would be anything but patronizing or insulting to anyone who isn't a high school student.

Comment author: TimS 15 October 2012 07:17:57PM 1 point [-]

High school is a formative experience, socially speaking. When I was 23, my social skill were heavily effected by routines I'd learned in high school that I hadn't yet realized with dysfunctional given my goals. I found Graham's essay very insightful, and I might have found it even more helpful before I put all that effort into improving my social skills.

Comment author: blashimov 16 October 2012 05:42:56PM 0 points [-]
Comment author: TimS 16 October 2012 06:18:06PM 2 points [-]

I meant the one linked by Rolf in the grandparent post.

Or you can click here to read "Why Nerds are Unpopular." Short answer: being popular is a lot of work, and nerds prefer doing other things that don't leave them with the time to develop popularity skills. At the margins, popularity is a skill, not a talent.

Comment author: blashimov 16 October 2012 08:58:47PM 0 points [-]

Now I feel silly, as I read that. Thanks for your time.

Comment author: RolfAndreassen 15 October 2012 09:19:39PM 0 points [-]

I did consider that the post was very well written, but then, it is precisely the child prodigies who have the greatest difficulty in high school. The language is not out of reach for a high-intelligence teenager who both reads and writes a lot.

In any case I sit corrected on the OP's age.

Comment author: ryjm 15 October 2012 10:46:56PM 0 points [-]

I understand, and I do think you gave good advice (I love pg's writing).

On a related note, I just get a little worried when these threads come up. We like to hide behind computing jargon and Spock-like introspection; this does help with efficient communication, but probably makes us look more resilient than we really are. These kind of LW discussion posts are probably of very high social value to the OP and the tone of the responses have more of an effect than we would like to admit.

So helping the OP to see hard truths is all well and good, but it seems to me that we could use a bit more finesse. It's easier to understand the root of a problem when we have such precise words for everything, but it also means our pontifications must be just as precise or miss the mark completely - possibly hitting something we weren't aiming for.