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Comment author: Ritalin 13 November 2012 03:24:45AM 0 points [-]

You can only try to help those who have true beliefs better publicize them.

It's true that if the truth of a belief were sufficient to spread it, it wouldn't matter if one were nice or polite. However, I believe that, as a long term strategy, mockery is not the best way to spread beliefs (though it might be a good way to destroy them), because no matter how right one happens to be, people don't want to listen to a dismissive douchebag. Satire, sarcasm and irony are therefore weapons to be wielded with rather more care and precision than I have seen most of their users display.

Therefore, you might have the ethical injunction to never, ever respond to a bad argument with a bullet but might permit yourself to make your verbal counterargument more punchy.

It certainly is a matter of orders of magnitude. There's a point from which quantitative changes take a qualitative character, and causing death is one such point.

Comment author: OnTheOtherHandle 14 November 2012 02:40:57AM *  0 points [-]

Satire, sarcasm and irony are therefore weapons to be wielded with rather more care and precision than I have seen most of their users display.

I'm definitely in agreement there; I was just under the impression that you thought they should hands-down never be used (as I would say for physical violence in a verbal argument.) Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Comment author: Ritalin 14 November 2012 03:30:46AM *  0 points [-]

I think it's plausible to make an ethical injunction to abstain from using them. It's not like they're required or necessary to convey one's message, and I estimate that on the whole and between one thing and another they do more harm than good, on average.