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Comment author: fubarobfusco 15 February 2013 07:37:54AM *  8 points [-]

How about a third option:

  • Person A : Person B, my model predicted Y because of evidence X. But your experience sounds like ~Y, so I was surprised and want to update. Tell me more about your ~Y experiences!

In other words, consider that the other person possesses evidence that you do not, and invite them to update you instead of trying to update them.

A non-gender example:

Atheist: Pentecostal, my model predicted that people would go home from church feeling bored, guilty, or self-righteous, because former church people I know talk about those experiences, and church people who are active in politics seem to be big on guilt and self-righteousness. But your experience sounds like church is a fun party, that you go home from feeling giddy and high. I was surprised and want to update. Tell me more about your religious experiences!

Comment author: buybuydandavis 15 February 2013 10:33:51PM 2 points [-]

After the discussion, I think I've got a more concise option that achieves this end.

Option 4:
I disagree, because blah blah blah.

Concise, and makes it about my differing perceptions and evaluations. Better than my original "you're wrong, because blah blah." I doubt that this entirely satisfies the nice camp, but I think it's a baby step in their direction.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 16 February 2013 01:10:48PM 0 points [-]

I think it's actually a fairly large step, but I'm probably a moderate on niceness.