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Comment author: [deleted] 10 December 2012 08:27:26PM *  3 points [-]

So assuming you have good evidence of eldritch abominations what is the best suicide method? I'm guessing anything that really scrambles your information right. Please keep in mind practicality. Really powerful explosives seem hard to obtain. Having someone dispose of your body after suicide seems an ok but risky option.

Fire?

Comment author: MixedNuts 15 December 2012 01:16:57PM 4 points [-]

Sufficiently clever eldritch abominations should be able to reconstruct you from very little material.

  • Your brain, of course, must be entirely destroyed.
  • It's safer to destroy the rest of your nervous system, which might also contain information.
  • Your genetic material and records of your actions (e.g. your comments on the Internet) are individually insufficient to deduce you, but I'm not so sure about the combination.

So first you want to erase as much information about yourself as you can. Take down everything you put on the Internet, burn everything you wrote, exert your right to delete personal information everywhere you have such a right.

You'll also want to distort other people's memories of you. (Or kill them too, but then we get recursive and reprehensible.) If you have sufficient time, you might do a few hugely out of character things and then isolate yourself completely. Maybe suggest a few false memories first.

There's probably nothing you can do about leaving DNA everywhere. At least try not to have kids.

Fire could work, but you're likely to burn incompletely. I suggest going out to a remote, hot area (think Amazonian jungle), obscuring your starting location as much as you can, going as far out as you can, and dying by having your head crushed or a bullet to the head. By the time someone notices your disappearance, figures out where you went, searches the area, and finds your body, you should have rotten completely.

If the eldritch abominations are coming right now and you don't have time for that, yeah, just jump into an incinerator. You should find one of these by following a garbage truck.

(Also, you okay, kid? This is just silly, Deep-Ones-dancing-on-the-head-of-a-pin musing, right? You can message me if you need to.)

Comment author: [deleted] 16 December 2012 01:02:44PM 6 points [-]

I'm starting to wonder whether one of the reasons why Roko deleted all of his comments was that he didn't want to leave too many horcruxes behind.

Comment author: [deleted] 15 December 2012 04:13:24PM *  3 points [-]

Thank you for the excellent comment.

Your genetic material and records of your actions (e.g. your comments on the Internet) are individually insufficient to deduce you, but I'm not so sure about the combination.

This is what most worries me.

Comment author: [deleted] 15 December 2012 10:02:56PM 1 point [-]

Take down everything you put on the Internet, burn everything you wrote, exert your right to delete personal information everywhere you have such a right.

Unfortunately, I'm afraid that in my case I'd have to at least nuke Facebook's servers. I used not to worry about possible future eldritch abominations at all because I thought if I saw them coming I could just guillotine my head into a fireplace or something, but now that I realize that they could likely still reconstruct a sufficient-fidelity copy of me, I do worry a little about not pissing them off. Unfortunately I barely have any idea about what would piss them off, so all in all I don't behave that differently than I used to, as per the standard atheist reply to Pascal's wager. Also, I don't think such abominations are that likely.

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Comment author: Maelin 12 December 2012 03:45:25AM 3 points [-]

My father told me about someone he knew when he was working as a nurse at a mental hospital, who tried killing himself three times with a gun in the mouth. The first two times he used a pistol of some sort - both times, the bullet passed between the hemispheres of his brain (causing moderate but not fatal brain damage), exited through the back of his head, and all the hot gases from the gun cauterised the wounds.

The third time he used a shotgun, and that did the job. For firearm based suicide, I think above the ear is a safer bet.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 15 December 2012 08:11:10PM 3 points [-]

There should be a word for that kind of luck.

Comment author: [deleted] 15 December 2012 12:13:13PM 2 points [-]

The first two times he used a pistol of some sort - both times, the bullet passed between the hemispheres of his brain (causing moderate but not fatal brain damage), exited through the back of his head, and all the hot gases from the gun cauterised the wounds.

o.O

Comment author: vi21maobk9vp 14 December 2012 06:40:56PM 0 points [-]

Pistol to the mouth seems to require full mouth of water for high chance of success.

Comment author: [deleted] 13 December 2012 10:07:53PM 0 points [-]

Shotgun's not going to have the problems of a pistol, unless you're using slugs -- and I suspect the hydrostatic shock differential will still do the trick there.