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Comment author: drethelin 09 December 2012 09:09:43AM 1 point [-]

I really really hate the alcohol fact. The idea of inebriating myself in that way is really unappealing. I'm still young so I can ignore it for now and hope I feel different in the future.

Comment author: ShardPhoenix 09 December 2012 11:26:45AM 14 points [-]

The positive effect doesn't rely on drinking the level of alcohol that would normal cause someone to be considered "inebriated".

Comment author: FiftyTwo 09 December 2012 07:51:08PM 2 points [-]

Additionally, frequent exposure likely decreases the inebriating effects.

Comment author: [deleted] 09 December 2012 11:44:33PM 0 points [-]

So does drinking on a full stomach, and having drunk plenty of water beforehand. Also, IME the colder it is outside, the less drunk I feel after a given amount of alcohol.

Comment author: handoflixue 11 December 2012 01:24:51AM 0 points [-]

Be careful with that last one. I've a fair amount of second-hand anecdotes of people doing stuff while it's colder outside, and then it hits them like a load of bricks when they come back inside, where it's warm. :)

Comment author: Pablo_Stafforini 10 December 2012 05:02:07AM *  1 point [-]

In fact, the positive effect relies on not drinking the level of alcohol that would normally cause someone to be considered "inebriated". The relationship between alcohol consumption and total mortality is J-shaped: more than 3-4 drinks per day are associated to worse health outcomes than no alcohol, with the benefits for total mortality reaching a nadir at less than one drink per day. (source)

Comment author: tut 09 December 2012 07:57:15PM 4 points [-]

Good news: If you don't enjoy getting drunk you are not predisposed to become an alcoholic. That means that you likely can drink one glass of wine each afternoon (getting most of the benefits Yvain talks about) and not begin to get drunk.

Comment author: drethelin 10 December 2012 08:03:09AM 0 points [-]

now I just have to get over the fact that I hate the taste of alcohol and most alcoholic beverages, yay longevity?

Comment author: Bakkot 10 December 2012 03:46:16PM 1 point [-]

Given the probable substantial benefits, I think it would be worth your time and money (probably wouldn't take more than a couple of days and a couple of hundred dollars) to go through a few dozen types of wine to figure out what you most enjoy. If no wine is sufficiently palatable that you think you could consistently drink it a few times a week, go through other sorts of drinks (of which there is a huge variety). Personally, while I don't enjoy 90% of the drinks I've tried, I'm quite partial to Baileys and milk, and to most kinds of fruity drinks - sangrias in particular involve wine and are tasty.

Comment author: drethelin 10 December 2012 09:40:51PM 0 points [-]

The only drinks I've found palatable are either sugary or milky, and I'm both lactose intolerant and dieting to avoid sugar.

Comment author: erratio 10 December 2012 02:50:00PM 0 points [-]

I have a similar taste issue, and after a year and a half of deliberate practice every time I go out with colleagues I'm finally starting to find the taste more tolerable, and even to enjoy a very small subset of alcoholic drinks. That said, I find wine to be the most disgusting in taste and I suspect that even with a lot of practice I'll never enjoy it enough to voluntarily drink a full glass of it at any time, let alone every day.