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Comment author: shminux 10 December 2012 06:58:20PM 0 points [-]

(Any examples from my comment? These are the simplest terms I know to accurately convey the relevant ideas, any help would be appreciated.)

Cf "target does not exist" with

MentalNode-34223359 | Pointer error, no data at requested location

without actually finding a referent for the (ThankfulTo()) function

and to a reference to an esoteric language Lojban.

As you pointed out, your other geeky analogies, like "brain passing non-typesafe parameters and pointers", while understandable to a programmer like myself, also appear needlessly complicated.

my current impression is that your current mind configuration is not as "bad" as you seem to question/wonder/fear

I simply noticed the disconnect between a belief and an alief in this particular case. Whether it is possible/worthwhile to get them aligned, is another question.

Comment author: DaFranker 10 December 2012 07:17:43PM 0 points [-]

and to a reference to an esoteric language Lojban.

I agree with the other needlessly complicated analogies, but I forgot / should have explained that Lojban has a very logical structure where a word can have certain specific required or optional complements, e.g. IIRC the "expressing thanks" word would have a complement slot for (Target), a second slot for (what the thanks is for) and then one for (who is thanking the target) (defaults to speaker or provided by context), and in Lojban it's perfectly normal to leave some slots empty for deliberate ambiguity/vagueness (but explicit ambiguity, unlike most natural languages).

So the reason I mentioned it is that this may be where I got this lack of any particular issue with empty/confused targets and could also be why my mind doesn't seem to generate any aliefs from it as it seems yours might. There are other plausible explanations, but I doubt a test for that is feasible or relevant.