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Derp, no real disagreement on the "gratitude" as far as I can tell.
"feeling of gratitude" (or gratitude!ChristianKl) = something that just happens in the mind, a feeling, target irrelevant
gratitude!schminux = (Cause => Effect | Effect is good) => gratitude towards Cause
Is this perhaps useful in resolving that bit of confusion? I hope I'm not strawmanning anyone.
From how I understand schminux, he suggests that the cause needs to be an agent. Is that true?
If my understanding is correct (based on other comments), this is one of the main things being put into question by the main post and which motivated schminux to start this discussion.
I don't know about him, but for me, yes. It needs to be someone who you could say "thank you" to.