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pedanterrific comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 17, chapter 86 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: pedanterrific 18 December 2012 06:12:14PM 21 points [-]

Now Mad-Eye Moody was turning slowly, always turning, surveying the graveyard of Little Hangleton. [...]

Moody didn't actually need to turn to survey the graveyard.

The Eye of Vance saw the full globe of the world in every direction around him, no matter where it was pointing.

But there was no particular reason to let a former Death Eater like Severus Snape know that.

Some time later:

"You see in all directions," Harry Potter said, that strange fierce light still in his gaze. "No matter where that eye is pointing, it sees everything around you."

Oops.

Comment author: Tenek 19 December 2012 04:45:23PM 1 point [-]

Just because he has no reason to tell Snape doesn't mean he has any particular reason to fear the knowledge getting out. He's already earned his spot on the Supremely Dangerous Wizards list.

Kinda makes me wonder why he didn't conceal the fact that he has a magical eye at all, though.

Comment author: Xachariah 20 December 2012 01:43:44PM 23 points [-]

FakeSpoiler: Mad Eye actually wears a decoy. The real Eye of Vance is a suppository.

Comment author: Alsadius 20 December 2012 05:05:46AM 2 points [-]

Because it's bright blue, the wrong size, sits in its own special eye socket, and is prone to spinning on its own? It's not like he can play it off as being his own eye, and nobody would believe it's just regular glass. If you want your lies to be credible in future, you can't make obvious ones in the present.

Comment author: drethelin 20 December 2012 06:22:25AM 9 points [-]

There's a little thing called MAGIC. Also: Eyepatches. It's not like it can't see through them.

Comment author: Alsadius 20 December 2012 07:06:52AM 1 point [-]

I don't have a side view coming up on Google Image, but I thought the eye stuck out of his head pretty far, making any sort of usual eyepatch inadequate for concealing, and custom eyepatches(in the 20th century, when eyepatches are never seen outside of Halloween and period pieces) would just beg the question.

Comment author: drethelin 20 December 2012 08:21:21AM 4 points [-]

It's hard for me to imagine you're not trolling with that comment. We're talking about an entire culture that dresses in a combination of period garb, fictional accouterments, and ignores almost entirely the "20th century" world around them. No one comments on Quirrel's Turban or Moody's unique to him skull staff.

Also: To this day, the 21st century, people sometimes suffer eye injuries and wear eye patches, and they're pretty large

Also: Google image search for steampunk eyepatch

Comment author: Alsadius 20 December 2012 10:22:14AM 1 point [-]

Okay, using centuries to describe wizard fashion was a silly thing to do. And I was unfamiliar with serious modern eyepatches - most of the time I've seen something for that purpose, it's either sunglasses of some sort, or an "eyepatch" that's more of a temporary dressing than anything.

Though I don't see why a turban would raise eyebrows. Admittedly, white guys wearing them is unusual, but turbans are hardly rare. And everybody knows Moody's a bit of a loon, so...well, I suppose that by explaining why he has his weird headpiece, I'm also arguing for why he could probably get away with an eyepatch if he wanted to.

Maybe he got the Eye in a way that was made public despite his best efforts, and so he figured he'd do better to obfuscate its exact powers than to try to conceal its existence?

Comment author: pedanterrific 20 December 2012 05:01:17PM 1 point [-]

One could argue both ways. As I recall, he knocked over some third-world (or, since it's magical, negative-third-world) country to loot the artifact from a tinpot dictator. On the one hand, that sounds pretty dang public on the face of it; on the other, he phrases it as 'somewhere he doesn't have to worry about silly rules' (such as "don't hunt down and kill people because you want their things"), implying Britain isn't paying a lot of attention to the place in any event.

Comment author: pedanterrific 20 December 2012 05:14:28PM *  0 points [-]

Moody's unique to him skull staff

What are you talking about?

Edit: Ah, that's something they invented for the films.