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RolfAndreassen comments on The "Scary problem of Qualia" - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: RolfAndreassen 20 December 2012 05:09:28AM 1 point [-]

Which is to say that whenever there is (a physical arrangement with) a logical structure that matches (is transitive with) the logical structure of consciousness - then there would be consciousness.

Um, no? Why on Earth does that follow? We postulate that there is something about the physical properties of carbon atoms arranged as a human brain that causes, or is, consciousness. The physical properties of your line on paper aren't anything like that.

Comment author: DavidPlumpton 20 December 2012 07:32:39PM 0 points [-]

If it's a pencil line then it's got carbon atoms ;-)

Comment author: RolfAndreassen 20 December 2012 09:55:32PM 1 point [-]

Yes, but they're not organised anything like the ones in the brain! The energy flows, binding energies, wave amplitudes are completely different.

Comment author: Armok_GoB 27 December 2012 07:00:45PM 0 points [-]

So what if I take an ink made of neural steam cells, and some other stuff to keep them alive and not connecting to one another?

Comment author: RolfAndreassen 27 December 2012 07:39:43PM 0 points [-]

Then the quantum amplitudes and current flows are still nothing like that of a conscious brain. The logical structure only exists in your head; the atoms in my desk have some sort of "logical correspondence" to the ones in my head, for sufficiently arbitrary assignments of representation. "This atom corresponds to that one, and this one to that one over there... so the desk represents my brain." Well, it can, but only in my head!