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JTHM comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 18, chapter 87 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: JTHM 22 December 2012 07:57:46PM *  0 points [-]

Ah, yes, that would prevent Quirrell from being the occlumency teacher. But Mr. Bester could have been allied with or imperiused by Quirrell, and so Quirrell could use Bester or another person to do the memory modifications for him.

And Harry should have mentioned that gold-and-silver scheme here because if Hermione fails to make a philosopher's stone--which for all Harry knows, she very well may--then if Harry does indeed remember his original gold-and-silver scheme, he will use it anyway. And then Hermione would know that Harry deceived her into thinking that he was actually relying on her, and their relationship would be tarnished.

Moreover, we often hear Harry's thoughts. And he wasn't thinking about his gold-and-silver scheme during his conversation with Hermione.

Comment author: pedanterrific 22 December 2012 08:06:49PM 4 points [-]

This scene was narrated from Hermione's point of view.

Comment author: JTHM 22 December 2012 08:12:54PM *  0 points [-]

Oh, yeah. slaps forehead. Still, my other points stand.

Comment author: pedanterrific 22 December 2012 08:19:37PM 0 points [-]

"Fair warning, though," Harry went on, "I might solve the debt to Lucius Malfoy myself if I see a way before you do, it's more important to get that sorted immediately than which one of us gets it sorted. Anything interesting so far?"

Comment author: JTHM 22 December 2012 08:21:57PM 0 points [-]

That could just as easily imply that Harry hasn't thought of a way to pay off the debt as it could imply that he has.

Comment author: pedanterrific 22 December 2012 08:26:30PM 0 points [-]

He's explicitly saying he's not relying on her to do it. How could that be any clearer?

Comment author: JTHM 22 December 2012 08:28:28PM 0 points [-]

But if he does remember the gold-and-silver scheme, then he's telling Hermione to go work on a problem that isn't necessary to solve--and there's every likelihood that she'd find out.

Comment author: pedanterrific 22 December 2012 08:31:00PM 4 points [-]

"I s'pose you're going to tell me that I don't need to worry about anything and you'll take care of it all?" It came out sounding harsher than she would've wanted, and she felt another stab of guilt for being such a terrible person.

"Nah," Harry said, sounding oddly cheerful. "I can put myself in your shoes well enough to know that if you paid a bunch of money to save me, I'd be trying to pay it back. I'd know it was silly on some level, and I'd still be trying to pay it back all by myself. There's no way I wouldn't understand that, Hermione."

Hermione's face screwed up and she felt moisture in the corners of her eyes.

"Fair warning, though," Harry went on, "I might solve the debt to Lucius Malfoy myself if I see a way before you do, it's more important to get that sorted immediately than which one of us gets it sorted. Anything interesting so far?"

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