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MugaSofer comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 18, chapter 87 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: MugaSofer 29 December 2012 03:39:05PM -1 points [-]

I reckon that was Dumbledore's and Lily's (and maybe James') plan.

Are you saying that they tried and failed to do this? Or just that it was no accident?

What's the evidence that Voldemort actually cast a killing curse at Harry? That he tried to kill him in any way?

Well ... he does have the scar. And something happened. I mean, its conceivable that he just took the opportunity to fake his death, but it seems simpler to suppose that he was actually killed, survived via horcrux, and possessed Quirrel. And it happened roughly the same in canon, where he defenitely cast the curse.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 30 December 2012 12:42:24AM 1 point [-]

Yeah, meeting the clear terms of ritual magic seems like quite a freakish coincidence unless that had been their plan. So I think they tried this, or at least tried to give the appearance to Voldemort of doing this, so that he would feel himself safe from other traps.

As for the scar, anyone involved could have given Harry the scar, in a myriad of ways.

Ha! Maybe Dumbledore gave it to Harry after finding him alive in his crib.

Evidence - unidentifiable burnt out husk of a body. Scar on Harry. Voldemort at the scene of the crime. Voldemort presumed to want Harry dead. That's pretty weak tea.

The best bit of evidence I can see is the one no one talks about - the feeling of Doom and magic resonance between Harry and Quirrell. It seems credible to me that Voldemort might not have anticipated that, and it was Dumbledore so booby trapped Harry with that resonance.