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Which statement in this context would one consider as evidence for not valuing status?
This statement is evidence for not valuing status. Curiously, given the way evidence works, this is entirely compatible with Konkvistador's claim and also with the interpretation he suggests many will have.
As an example consider p(has this trait) raising from 0.001 to 0.01. It would still be most likely that this was a status move but there has been an update in favor of "has this trait".
Upvote for "I did the math and your claim was correct".
Terminal vs. Instrumental valuing something is a tricky distinction to make in humans! I have to shrug and say I don't know.
Not seeming to care about status on the other hand is quite easy to detect. The argument wouldn't have shown much optimization for making the author look high status. For example an opportunity to talk about positive traits the author has may be passed up.
Also note I wasn't claiming the paragraph was evidence, just that it would be seen as a status grab. It is after all status raising if taken as an accurate description of a person in our community.
I had genuinely not considered that it would ACTUALLY raise my status to make that claim. This was originally written for a more mainstream audience, where that claim would (I presume) be low status. A friend of mine even commented in a bit of shock that this wasn't an obvious fact of the world to me.
I find it amusing that my accidental status grab has been subverted by you, and turned in to a potential loss of status :)
A confession of socially inappropriate/immoral behaviour.
Sharing something highly personal and embarassing?
Might also be considered an attempt to signal status with "Look how brave I am!". After all, that's what many think Eliezer's OkCupid profile is.