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Decius comments on What if "status" IS a terminal value for most people? - Less Wrong Discussion

18 Post author: handoflixue 24 December 2012 08:31PM

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Comment author: Decius 24 December 2012 11:18:23PM 0 points [-]

What would evidence for or against 'people in general view status as a terminal goal' look like?

Comment author: handoflixue 25 December 2012 12:44:24AM 3 points [-]

They do things that gain them status at the EXPENSE of their other values.

Comment author: TrE 25 December 2012 09:42:59AM *  1 point [-]

Status were a powerful motivator, even more so that material goods/money. Money were spent for status-raising activities.

(those two are actually the case, if my memory doesn't fail me.)

Comment author: Decius 25 December 2012 09:50:22PM 0 points [-]

How would that be different if status was an instrumental goal, and was simply perceived to be more instrumental than the time and money spent towards acquiring it? (The actual instrumental value of status is irrelevant...)

Comment author: TrE 25 December 2012 10:24:21PM *  0 points [-]

Money has great, and nearly universal, instrumental value. That people give up money for status is not proof that status is terminal, but it's bayesian evidence.

Comment author: Decius 26 December 2012 08:58:48PM 0 points [-]

Statues also has instrumental value. People give up status for money as well.

One possibility is that people are performing arbitrage between status and money, as the relative costs and instrumental value of status and money change for them. Another is that they are both terminal values competing for each other. I see no way to distinguish between the two.