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18 Post author: handoflixue 24 December 2012 08:31PM

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Comment author: handoflixue 26 December 2012 02:59:34AM 2 points [-]

As a kid, my parents gave me a TON of trouble for exhibiting routine low-status behaviour (chewing on my shirt, refusing to wear a shirt, wearing stained shirts, showering once or twice a week, getting all sorts of dirty, eating food with the wrong fork...), and my mom specifically taught me a fair amount of etiquette (correct fork, how to set a table for a 3-course meal, so on)

So, I'm anecdotally evidence against your theory :)

Comment author: asparisi 26 December 2012 05:02:00AM 0 points [-]

I upvoted it because the minimum we'd get without running a study would be anecdotal evidence.

I'm not sure that there is a close link between "status" and "behaving." Most of the kids I knew who I would call "status-seeking" were not particularly well behaved: often the opposite. Most of the things you are talking about seem to fall into "good behavior" rather than "status."

Additionally... well, we'd probably need to track a whole lot of factors to figure out which ones, based on your environment, would be selected for. And currently, I have no theory as to which timeframes would be the most important to look at, which would make such a search more difficult.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 26 December 2012 05:26:49PM 2 points [-]

There may be important differences between avoiding low status and seeking high status.

Comment author: asparisi 26 December 2012 08:14:56PM 0 points [-]

Definitely. These are the sorts of things that would need to be evaluated if my very rough sketch were to be turned into an actual theory of values.

Comment author: bbleeker 26 December 2012 11:38:49AM *  2 points [-]

Good behaviour on your part would get your parents higher status with their peers, bad behaviour (for certain values of 'bad') would get you higher status with your peers.