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NancyLebovitz comments on Farewell Aaron Swartz (1986-2013) - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 13 January 2013 02:06:49PM *  14 points [-]

The public servants responsible for the case against Aaron Swartz as of July 2011:

U.S. Attorney Carmen M. Ortiz
Special Agent in Charge Steven D. Ricciardi
Assistant U.S. Attorney Stephen P. Heymann
Assistant U.S. Attorney Scott L. Garland
Cambridge Police Commissioner Robert C. Haas
The U.S. Secret Service’s Electronic Crimes Task Force
The Cambridge Police Department
The MIT Police Department

May they be remembered.

--Teresa Nielsen Hayden

This is from the discussion I mentioned as "more links"-- I probably should have said something about how thorough it is.

Comment author: David_Gerard 13 January 2013 02:41:25PM 9 points [-]

White House petition re: Carmen Ortiz. Surprisingly popular after just a few hours.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 15 January 2013 07:01:54AM 2 points [-]

The petition has gone over 25K.

Comment author: David_Gerard 15 January 2013 08:07:57AM 0 points [-]

Wonder if they'll let it run or kill it early.

Comment author: Desrtopa 15 January 2013 02:45:30PM 1 point [-]

I doubt they'll kill it before new signatures start to drop off.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 15 January 2013 05:44:00PM 3 points [-]
Comment author: [deleted] 14 January 2013 05:48:07PM *  4 points [-]

Why would you compile a list like this?

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 14 January 2013 06:24:09PM 9 points [-]

I didn't compile it, Teresa Nielsen Hayden (probably) did.

I promulgated it because I want there to be some social costs for disproportionate prosecution.

Comment author: [deleted] 14 January 2013 08:15:51PM *  4 points [-]

What social cost is that? How do you infer how much of it, if any, has been assessed?

Is this actually an effective method?

Comment author: Desrtopa 15 January 2013 02:44:34PM 3 points [-]

Well, the petition to have Carmen Ortiz removed from her position has gathered more than the required 25,000 signatures to be reviewed by the administration, in under four days. It's unlikely to result in her removal, but neither is it an auspicious sign for her career.

Comment author: David_Gerard 16 January 2013 12:11:58AM 2 points [-]

It won't result in her resignation. However, it's also important to kill her political aspirations.

Comment author: David_Gerard 19 January 2013 10:30:26PM *  1 point [-]

Achievement unlocked. "U.S. Attorney Carmen Ortiz is fighting to hold on to her job, and to avoid an embarrassing grilling in Congress and possible professional disciplinary proceedings. Her prospects look grim."

(I am giggling at this and depressed that Aaron can't see it and laugh and laugh.)

Comment author: [deleted] 16 January 2013 03:14:41AM 0 points [-]

This has nothing to do with posting a list of people alleged to be responsible to a discussion thread here.

Comment author: Desrtopa 16 January 2013 04:55:44AM 3 points [-]

I would argue otherwise. I personally signed the petition as a result of finding out about it on this page, as well as the similar petition for Steve Heymann, and if I'm ever in a position as a voter to influence the careers of other members of the list, their part in the proceedings would certainly be of interest to me.

Comment author: [deleted] 16 January 2013 05:16:19AM *  0 points [-]

The petitions were not linked in the original comment. I am not, in this thread, discussing the petitions. That is why I did not reply to the comments that link to the petition. I want to know the rationale behind promulgating (as it were) the aforementioned list.

Comment author: Desrtopa 16 January 2013 05:23:57AM *  2 points [-]

Well, even if it's only very slightly effective in incurring a social cost on the involved parties via informing people whose political careers to keep an eye on, it's certainly unlikely to be less effective than not posting such a list, all else being equal.