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pleeppleep comments on Farewell Aaron Swartz (1986-2013) - Less Wrong Discussion

75 Post author: Kawoomba 12 January 2013 10:09AM

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Comment author: pleeppleep 13 January 2013 03:26:07PM 2 points [-]

That still means he wanted to die, but the nature of his desire provokes extreme sympathy.

Comment author: MixedNuts 13 January 2013 04:27:33PM 15 points [-]

The psychology of suicide can get a lot more complicated than that. Feeling you absolutely must do something, but you can't bring yourself to lie down and wait, or to go to the hospital, or to call a hotline, or to take a shower, so you do the only thing you can. Watching yourself plan your own suicide, thinking "Huh. That's probably a bad idea. I wonder if I'll actually go through with it?". Being desperate both to die and to live, and picking whichever you're drifting towards until it happens to be death. Letting the suicidal part of you run the show, not because you share its goal, but because it's the only one that can get you out of bed.

Comment author: pleeppleep 13 January 2013 05:40:05PM 3 points [-]

That's.... an interesting analysis. Can I ask whether you're speaking from experience, or is that too personal? If not, do you have any links for where you got you're information? I myself feel self destructive from time to time, and I think that's a pretty good description of the emotions involved, so I'm a bit curious here.

Comment author: MixedNuts 13 January 2013 07:12:52PM 9 points [-]

First two are from experience, second two are from anecdotes whose sources I mostly forget plus a dash of experience.

I don't have nearly as much experience with suicidal thoughts that can be interpreted as "wanting to die", but I can report that the standard "too much suffering to cope with" explanation isn't universal.