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TheOtherDave comments on S.E.A.R.L.E's COBOL room - Less Wrong Discussion

29 Post author: Stuart_Armstrong 01 February 2013 08:29PM

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Comment author: TheOtherDave 04 February 2013 01:48:25PM *  5 points [-]

I would say I understand a system to the extent that I'm capable of predicting its behavior given novel inputs. Which seems to be getting at something similar to Dirac's version.

you hear all but the last word of a sentence, can you give a much tighter probability distribution over the end of the sentence than maxent over common vocabulary that fits grammatically?

IIRC, the CR as Searle describes it would include rules for responding to the question "What are likely last words that end this sentence?" in the same way a Chinese speaker would. So presumably it is capable of doing that, if asked.

And, definitionally, of doing so without understanding.

To my way of thinking, that makes the CR a logical impossibility, and reasoning forward from an assumption of its existence can lead to nonsensical conclusions.

Comment author: khafra 04 February 2013 02:25:00PM 2 points [-]

Good point--I was thinking of "figuring out the characteristics" fuzzily; but if defined as giving correctly predictive output in response to a given interrogative, the room either does it correctly, or isn't a fully-functioning Chinese Room.