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shminux comments on Naturalism versus unbounded (or unmaximisable) utility options - Less Wrong Discussion

34 Post author: Stuart_Armstrong 01 February 2013 05:45PM

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Comment author: shminux 01 February 2013 06:30:51PM -1 points [-]

The problem starts after you took the first deal.

I must be missing something. Your original calculation assumes no further (identical) deals, otherwise you would not accept the first one.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 01 February 2013 06:49:07PM 2 points [-]

The deal is one day at a time: 1 day hell now + 2 days heaven later, then purgatory; or take your banked days in heaven and then purgatory.

At the beginning you have 0 days in heaven in the bank.

Comment author: shminux 01 February 2013 06:58:01PM -1 points [-]

I see. Then clearly your initial evaluation of the proposed "optimal" solution (keep banking forever) is wrong, as it picks the lowest utility. As in the other examples, there is no best solution due to unboundedness, but any other choice is better than infinite banking.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 01 February 2013 07:09:11PM 0 points [-]

I was attempting to complete the problem statement that you thought was incomplete - not to say that it was a good idea to take that path.

Comment author: shminux 01 February 2013 07:16:22PM -2 points [-]

I thought it was incomplete? Are you saying that it can be considered complete without specifying the alternatives?

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 01 February 2013 07:44:15PM 2 points [-]

I think that sorting this muddled conversation out would not be worth the effort required.