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OrphanWilde comments on Politics Discussion Thread February 2013 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: OrphanWilde 08 February 2013 10:18:48PM 0 points [-]

Not really; universal healthcare is based on a belief (or alief) that life is a fundamental right. A simple belief that government should be making these decisions might lead to a belief in government-provided or government-run healthcare, but that's hardly the same thing as universal healthcare, which holds that government doesn't have a right to decide, only a responsibility to provide.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 08 February 2013 10:43:00PM 3 points [-]

Ok, I think a better way to formulate my point is that both universal healthcare and drone warfare come from an alief that the government has unlimited moral authority, in the sense Arnold Kling discusses here and here.

doesn't have a right to decide, only a responsibility to provide.

I don't see the difference, especially when you remember that resources are finite.

Comment author: OrphanWilde 11 February 2013 04:09:15PM 0 points [-]

You seem to be conflating intention and results in the opposite direction I usually see; you're suggesting that the practical necessities of implementing universal healthcare are a part of the ideology or principles which lead one to seek it.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 12 February 2013 04:31:29AM 2 points [-]

you're suggesting that the practical necessities of implementing universal healthcare are a part of the ideology or principles which lead one to seek it.

Specifically an ideology/alief that causes one to decide which policies to support without thinking about how they would actually be implemented in practice.