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44 Post author: Qiaochu_Yuan 14 February 2013 06:32AM

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Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 14 February 2013 06:45:23AM 6 points [-]

I'll start: I'm going to give up rice. I eat a lot of rice by default. I've wanted to try cutting out "bad carbs" for awhile, but this has been the main sticking point, so it's got to go.

Comment author: shminux 14 February 2013 07:18:30AM 5 points [-]

What do you expect to happen?

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 14 February 2013 07:39:38AM *  5 points [-]

I have generally low energy throughout most days (last Friday morning was a welcome exception that I haven't figured out) and am trying to fix this. I've been told that cutting out processed / refined carbs is an intervention that has fixed this problem in some people. And a hypothesis affords testing. My current estimate of the probability that this intervention will fix the problem (subjectively; I may also try dual N-back testing to quantify the effect but am open to other suggestions) is maybe 40%.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 19 February 2013 11:22:25AM 5 points [-]

I may also try dual N-back testing to quantify the effect but am open to other suggestions

N.B. for self-experimenters: bullet chess and three minute blitz chess are very, very useful for quick, fun cognitive testing once you're beyond ~1400 Elo and aren't improving rapidly. If you're attentive not only will you notice overall performance changes, you'll notice changes in various subskills, some of which I strongly suspect have transfer with rationality subskills. (Not enough time to justify that claim here.) Whenever I try a new drug or am just feeling different for some unknown reason I'll play at least five games of blitz to figure out more precisely what's different about my mind.

(N-back works too of course but is relatively aversive and doesn't factorize into subskills as introspectively-obviously as chess does. But that could very well be because I never got beyond 4-back whereas I've played a lot of chess.)

Comment author: OrphanWilde 14 February 2013 04:21:00PM 0 points [-]

Do you crave salty food, or salt food more than most other people?

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 14 February 2013 04:35:17PM 1 point [-]

I don't know. How would I test that?

Comment author: OrphanWilde 14 February 2013 05:04:17PM 1 point [-]

I guess it's simpler to get at what I'm getting at more directly: Look into iodine deficiency, and see if that could be a cause. -Especially- if you have strong negative reactions to high-carbohydrate foods, as reactive hypoglycemia is one of the less common symptoms. (It's one I get, actually, which is why I'm aware of it; white rice knocks me out of commission when I haven't been taking regular iodine supplements.)

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 14 February 2013 05:39:42PM *  1 point [-]

I don't have strong negative reactions to high-carbohydrate foods (they sometimes make me tired). The symptoms of iodine deficiency seem pretty severe and inconsistent with my experience.

Comment author: RomeoStevens 14 February 2013 10:33:56AM 3 points [-]

Of all the carb heavy foods to cut out, I'd cut out rice 2nd to last (potatoes absolutely last). What makes it "bad" to you?

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 14 February 2013 04:39:15PM *  2 points [-]

The sources I've been reading are neutral-to-mildly-unhappy about it (Archevore, Bulletproof, Mark's Daily Apple, 4-Hour Body), and I eat a lot of it.

Comment author: RomeoStevens 15 February 2013 12:32:00AM 2 points [-]

Ah, so the plan is cold turkey to break the habit of using it as a main component of diet? Sounds good.

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 15 February 2013 12:35:06AM 1 point [-]

Yes, at the very least it should force me to explore my other options.

Comment author: James_Miller 14 February 2013 03:06:23PM 0 points [-]

In an effort to cut out "bad carbs" I've been eating a lot more rice as a substitute for other carbs. What are your good carbs?

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 14 February 2013 08:02:10PM 0 points [-]

For what it's worth, quinoa seems pretty benign in terms of how it leaves me feeling.

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 14 February 2013 04:28:26PM 0 points [-]

Based on my reading: potatoes (neutral), sweet potatoes, bananas.

Comment author: James_Miller 14 February 2013 05:14:05PM 0 points [-]

I've also read positive things about sweet potatoes. But don't bananas have a lot of sugar in them?

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 14 February 2013 05:19:20PM 2 points [-]

I suppose, but less of it is fructose than in other fruits. I don't intend to eat large quantities of bananas either way.

Comment author: --- 14 February 2013 11:54:31AM 0 points [-]

Use brown rice rather than white rice. Here is a great table comparing the nutritional differences:

http://www.rebeccablood.net/domestic/rice.html

Brown rice is very healthy. But it takes longer to cook. I just bought a rice cooker - a nice 8-in-1 one from Tefal on Amazon. Easily worth the £50 in saved time, effort, long term health costs. Takes 90 mins to cook.

I usually, after 80 mins, add some broccoli to steam inside the rice-cooker. Then I just need to have cooked some chicken with a little flavour and I have an exceptionally healthy, tastey meal. Great for anyone starting bodybuilding (which if you like sex, is a rational thing to do).