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11 Post author: nigerweiss 14 February 2013 09:22AM

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Comment author: Manfred 17 February 2013 06:40:18AM *  0 points [-]

I dunno, is that tree sequence related to the busy beaver sequence? And speaking of which, what kind of big number contest bans busy beaver? Srsly : <

Comment author: [deleted] 18 February 2013 03:51:26AM *  0 points [-]

As far as I know, the TREE function has no particular relationship to the busy beaver functions. The TREE function is computable, whereas the busy beaver functions are not.

I wonder how TREE(3) compares to Loader's number. If I understand correctly, if Kruskal's tree theorem can be proved in the calculus of constructions using a reasonable number of symbols (where 3^^^3 counts as a reasonable number, but TREE(3) does not), then Loader's number is much larger.

Edit: Wikipedia states that Friedman's special cases of Kruskal's tree theorem can "easily" be proved in second-order arithmetic, which can be expressed in the calculus of constructions. I'm pretty sure this means that the TREE function can be written in the calculus of constructions using a reasonable number of symbols, meaning that Loader's number is much larger than TREE(n) for any reasonable value of n.