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Elithrion comments on Desires You're Not Thinking About at the Moment - Less Wrong Discussion

1 Post author: Ghatanathoah 20 February 2013 09:41AM

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Comment author: Elithrion 21 February 2013 05:40:00AM 2 points [-]

Worse than that, I think it breaks down even without removing memory formation. If someone takes drugs regularly which make them act very differently, it's probably best to model them as two people (or at least two sets of behaviours and reactions attached to one person) even if they remembers both sides at all times. On a less drug-related level, for most people, aroused!person acts quite differently from unaroused!person (and while I mainly meant sexual arousal, it's true for anger and other strong emotions as well). Which is just saying that a person acts differently when experiencing different emotions/mental states, which we really already know. It's definitely more salient with drugs, though.

Comment author: jooyous 21 February 2013 06:20:39AM 1 point [-]

I feel like that's a bit exaggerated, because an angry person will still remember themselves yelling and maybe throwing things. Once they've called down, they might still be inclined to argue that what they did was correct and justified, but they won't have trouble admitting they did it. If a person doesn't remember having the experience of yelling and throwing things, they won't know anything about their internal state at the time it happened. So people telling them something happened is evidence that it did, but it was the ... conscious experience of someone else? (Blargh, fuzzy wording.)