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RomeoStevens comments on Desires You're Not Thinking About at the Moment - Less Wrong Discussion

1 Post author: Ghatanathoah 20 February 2013 09:41AM

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Comment author: RomeoStevens 22 February 2013 04:42:30AM 0 points [-]

There is something I am having that I label "subjective experience." I value this thing in myself and others. That I can't completely specify it doesn't matter much, I can't fully specify most of my values.

Comment author: OrphanWilde 22 February 2013 02:34:16PM -1 points [-]

You can't even tell whether or not others have this thing that you label subjective experience. Are you sure you value it in others?

Comment author: RomeoStevens 22 February 2013 08:28:43PM 0 points [-]

The world in which I am the only being having a subjective experience and everyone else is a p-zombie is ridiculously unlikely.

Comment author: OrphanWilde 22 February 2013 09:09:01PM 0 points [-]

I didn't suggest you were the only one having a subjective experience. I suggested that what you -label- a subjective experience may not be experienced by others.

Are you seeing the same red I am? Maybe. That doesn't stop us from using a common label to refer to an objective phenomenon.

Similarly, whatever similarities you think you share with other people may be the product of a common label referring to an objective phenomenon, experienced subjectively differently. And that can include subjective existence. The qualities of subjective existence you value are not necessarily present in every possible subjective existence.

Comment author: RomeoStevens 22 February 2013 09:18:39PM 0 points [-]

And when it results in predictions of different futures I'll care.