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Comment author: ChristianKl 06 March 2015 12:29:10AM 0 points [-]

I made a point of speaking about smart and skillful people. Of course there are unskilled people for whom it's difficult to find meaningful work.

They need to rely on their social skills, networking, which only works for extroverts or people who generally like people and so on.

Of course the salesperson needs social skills, that's what being a sales person is about. If you don't enjoy social interaction then pick another job.

The logistics or accountant expert can just get a degree and apply for job ads, but the salesperson cannot and the historian cannot and the comics drawer cannot.

Neither Dilbert nor Randal needed anybody to give him a job. Those are the comics that I actually read and both of those people make money from their work.

Of course they both have skills that they didn't develop through a degree, but I don't think that's a problem.

IKEA is better off with warehouse guys who dislike each other, just do what they are told individually

Warehouse guys don't have cool jobs, but having a motivated workforce is useful in most circumstances and relationships facilitate it.

Comment author: [deleted] 06 March 2015 09:15:14AM 0 points [-]

Somehow we are misunderstanding each other. Let's take Dilbert. It is a skill developed outside college, but without anything like a clear job and career promise. Relying on only this IMHO takes a lot of courage. Having a Plan B, like draw comics but also learn to be an accountant, is probably what they did unless they are very brave. In this case, the question is do people have passions or interests that are monetizable, for comics drawing probably does not come as a career choice, but more of a hobby as first.

Comment author: ChristianKl 06 March 2015 12:19:41PM 0 points [-]

I don't buy the premise that a "clear job and career" promise is needed for anything.

Comment author: [deleted] 06 March 2015 12:22:17PM *  0 points [-]

Needed for feeling safe. Needed for not needing courage. Needed for not feeling existential angst, insecurity or anything like tht. Needed against the nagging feeling "will anyone ever really pay for this bullshit I am doing here?"

One thing I did not mention that if your parents instilled a no pain no gain mentality into you, then you feel like if you are enjoying yourself and doing something you like, you are not gaining anything, you are using up capital, wasting time and you feel you cannot possibly get paid for it in the long run.

Comment author: ChristianKl 06 March 2015 03:06:25PM 0 points [-]

Needed for not needing courage.

Basically "lack of skill".

One thing I did not mention that if your parents instilled a no pain no gain mentality into you

Basically "lack of skill".

Comment author: [deleted] 06 March 2015 04:20:36PM 0 points [-]

No, I don't see it is the case. It could be an underestimation of skill, or the underestimation of the environment's suitability for that skill. And the instilled mentality has absolutely nothing to do with skill, it just makes one kind of puritanical.