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Comment author: Desrtopa 11 April 2013 02:55:17AM *  11 points [-]

It are usually women(correct me if I'm wrong) who object against PU and present a variety of reasons. As often when it concerns humans the presented reasons are rationalizations and the real causes of the antagonism is some deeper feeling that originates for entirely different reasons than the ones presented. I suspect this is also the case with PU. For the moment I will ignore the presented reasons some of which I will address later and instead focus on what I think is the real underlying cause.

This makes me feel very tempted to downvote before I've even had a chance to read the rest of the rest of the post. Please, introduce the presented objections to start with. This will help readers assess how fair your extrapolations of the real underlying cause are. To do otherwise will leave you looking dismissive of their position, and you cannot take it for granted that your audience will accept that such a level of dismissiveness is warranted.

Comment author: roland 11 April 2013 03:38:58AM -2 points [-]

Please, introduce the presented objections to start with.

There are countless of them, I chose only a few examples later on.

To do otherwise will leave you looking dismissive of their position, and you cannot take it for granted that your audience will accept that such a level of dismissiveness is warranted.

Are you reading a tone into my post that is not actually there? I didn't want to sound dismissive, my whole point is that there is a real reason for not liking PU and this is the most important one, therefore I present it at the beginning. Feel free to skip this part and read the rest first.

Comment author: Desrtopa 11 April 2013 04:12:16AM 6 points [-]

I have read the rest of the post, but while I accept that it's a good-faith attempt to explain the reason many people have distaste for the PUA movement, I think it comes off as rather presumptuous to skip what other people have said about their reasons for having poor regard for the movement when you're asserting that the real reason is something else.

I'm also not convinced that what the post describes is indeed for most objectors the primary reason for not liking PUA.

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