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Comment author: buybuydandavis 17 April 2013 04:24:34AM 3 points [-]

If only there was a Celestial Pyschopath to torture me eternally.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 17 April 2013 06:59:22AM *  7 points [-]

If the Celestial Psychopath is also a Utility Monster and gets a lot of utility from your torture, why not?

EDIT: This is more or less the official theological explanation. God's utility function is infinitely bigger than human's, therefore torturing a human eternally even for the smallest offense against God is fair. Of course there are some applause lights on the top of that.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 01 May 2013 08:25:25PM 1 point [-]

This is to some extent a rephrase of some specific Christian apologetic justifications. Note that not all religions which have such a deity which tortures people for eternity. For example most forms of Judaism and some forms of Christianity and Islam believe in at most finite punishment in the afterlife.

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 18 April 2013 06:06:39AM *  3 points [-]

You should read smart theists for a different perspective (e.g. C. S. Lewis).

Full disclosure: I don't like C. S. Lewis, but you are laughing at a man of straw, it's like mocking science based on crackpots.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 18 April 2013 07:22:04AM *  1 point [-]

Yes, the man of straw made of a thousand years and more of the dogma of hell, and the majority of monotheists still. That's the reality of monotheism.

Smart, compared to a lot of his brethren, who also are one chromosome away from a chimpanzee. Do you plan on spending your life reading the smart astrologers? Me neither.

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 18 April 2013 08:08:20AM *  3 points [-]

The majority of monotheists are stupid. How good would their opinion be on an easily verifiable topic?

If you ask stupid monotheists about evolution, they would tell you garbage. If you ask them about God, they would tell you garbage too. You shouldn't update much in either case, even if they believe one but not the other. If you want to be an atheist, you steelman theism first.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 19 April 2013 02:33:58PM 1 point [-]

The original statement was about God, not Thor. I can't think of anything I particularly have against Thor, besides being a tiresome, pompous ass in Marvel comics. In an honest reading of the bible, God is a sadistic psychopath.

There are more or less horrific gods. I wasn't responding to a statement about a god who grants wishes and poops happiness gum drops, and I see no point in engaging in wishful thinking about what the bestest and shiniest god could be.

Comment author: Randy_M 26 April 2013 03:57:43PM 0 points [-]

he did say life, not afterlife.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 28 April 2013 10:33:59PM 1 point [-]

Is afterlife the "life after", like the after party? Your eternal life, as opposed to your mortal life?

No matter how you slice it, I don't see improvement in this life from the existence of God as portrayed in the Bible (or Allah in the Koran).