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31 Post author: RobbBB 01 May 2013 02:40PM

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Comment author: IlyaShpitser 02 May 2013 11:29:20AM *  -1 points [-]

In pragmatic terms, we know that true two-boxers will willingly take on arbitrarily large disutility

This is only the case in a world-view that accepts that Omega cannot be tricked. How do you know Omega cannot be tricked? This view corresponds to a certain view of how choices get made, how the choice making algorithm is simulated, and various properties of this simulation as embodied in physical reality. Absent an actual proof, this view is just that -- a view.

Two-boxers aren't (necessarily!) stupid, they simply adhere to commitments that make it possible to fool Omega.

Comment author: wedrifid 02 May 2013 01:31:22PM 2 points [-]

Two-boxers aren't (necessarily!) stupid, they simply adhere to commitments that make it possible to fool Omega.

No, they don't. You seem to be confused not just about Newcomb's Problem but also about why the (somewhat educated subset of) people who Two-Box make that choice. They emphatically do not do it because they believe they are able to fool Omega. They expect to lose (ie. not get the $1,000,000).