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ESRogs comments on Kevin Drum's Article about AI and Technology - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: ESRogs 16 May 2013 09:07:19PM 0 points [-]

Ah, a very interesting point of view. Framing it as a dichotomy between important work and wireheading seems a bit stark though. Are you meaning to include any sort non-productive fun under the umbrella of wireheading? I usually think of that term as implying only simple, non-complex fun (e.g. pleasure of orgasm vs experience of love and friendship).

Comment author: TheOtherDave 16 May 2013 10:46:15PM 3 points [-]

This gets difficult to specify, because "productive" and "important" are themselves ill-defined, but I certainly mean to include "virtual reality/video game heaven" within "wireheading," including VR environments including virtual people that pretend to love and befriend me. (This is distinguished from actual people who really do love and befriend me, whether they have flesh-and-blood bodies or not.)

That said, I have no idea, ultimately, if I would prefer the continuous-orgasm video game or the fake-love-and-friendship video game... I might well prefer the latter, or to switch back and forth, or something else.

Comment author: ESRogs 17 May 2013 05:47:59PM 0 points [-]

Ah, that clears things up, thanks!