You are asking me to do an extremely large computational project (designing not only a good human society, but a plausible path to it), based on assumptions I don't think are realistic. I don't have time for that. Some people do though:
Oh, I didn't mean that I want you to outline a manifesto or plan or anything.
Do they also believe that an elite group should have large amounts of power over the majority?
was my original question. What I meant was more that if you identify as "authoritarian", it implicitly means that you think that it is a goal worth working towards in the real world, rather than a platonic ideal. Obviously, if it were possible to ensure a ruler or ruling class competently served the interests of the people, dictatorship would be the best form of government - but someone who identifies as authoritarian is saying that they believe that this can actually happen and that if history had gone differently and we were under a certain brand of authoritarian right now we'd be better off.
I could say that I am a perfectly altruistic utilitarian. This is an advantageous thing to claim in some circles, but it is also false.
Hehe...you better expect to save quite a few lives if you want to justify staying alive with that preference set (you have organs that could be generating so much utility to so many people!).
"Some people value X, but they are confused and X is not real morality, I only value Y and Z" which is a common position to take wrt the authority and purity axes on haidt,
If you cross out " but they are confused and X is not real morality" I guess I'm one of those people - I don't think they are confused about what they value. I just think that I don't share that value. The phrase "real morality" is senseless - I'm not a moral realist.
I suppose I could be confused about my own values, of course. But when I read Haidt's work, I became better able to understand what my conservative friends would think about various situations. It improved my ability to empathize. It wouldn't even have occurred to me to respect authority or purity intrinsically...I used to think that they just weren't thinking clearly (whereas now I think it's just a matter of different values)
...was my original question. What I meant was more that if you identify as "authoritarian", it implicitly means that you think that it is a goal worth working towards in the real world, rather than a platonic ideal. Obviously, if it were possible to ensure a ruler or ruling class competently served the interests of the people, dictatorship would be the best form of government - but someone who identifies as authoritarian is saying that they believe that this can actually happen and that if history had gone differently and we were under a certain br
Kevin Drum has an article in Mother Jones about AI and Moore's Law:
Although he only mentions consumer goods, Drum presumably means that scarcity will end for services and consumer goods. If scarcity only ended for consumer goods, people would still have to work (most jobs are currently in the services economy).
Drum explains that our linear-thinking brains don't intuitively grasp exponential systems like Moore's law.
He also includes this nice animated .gif which illustrates the principle very clearly.
Drum continues by talking about possible economic ramifications.
Drum says the share of (US) national income going to workers was stable until about a decade ago. I think the graph he links to shows the worker's share has been declining since approximately the late 1960s/early 1970s. This is about the time US immigration levels started increasing (which raises returns to capital and lowers native worker wages).
The rest of Drum's piece isn't terribly interesting, but it is good to see mainstream pundits talking about these topics.