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Omid comments on Why is it rational to invest in retirement? I don't get it. - Less Wrong Discussion

20 Post author: diegocaleiro 16 May 2013 01:28AM

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Comment author: Omid 16 May 2013 04:02:10AM 14 points [-]

Personally, I'm worried about becoming unemployable. I'm especially worried about new technology replacing human labor. The best insurance against my labor being devalued is lots of capital.

Comment author: bartimaeus 17 May 2013 12:35:03AM 0 points [-]

Depending on your current career path, up to a certain age it's entirely possible to switch careers entirely, even to something that makes concrete use of skills acquired from another career (so it's not a complete restart). Built-up capital or some other means of remaining self-sustainable for a period of time could allow you to return to school in something completely different.

I'm not speaking from experience though; I can guess that this type of situation would be difficult. But when saving, balancing the return on investment with the accessibility of the funds seems wise.

Comment author: diegocaleiro 16 May 2013 06:54:20PM 0 points [-]

Invested in whatever the machines can't do. Or what they will multiply instead of devaluate.

Like hairdressing, chef cooking, extreme sport tour guide, land in scandinavia (if Hansons guess about the emulations hub is right), energy sources. Which is what one should invest in, if afraid of the emulation economy.

Comment author: niceguyanon 21 May 2013 11:41:03PM 0 points [-]

land in scandinavia (if Hansons guess about the emulations hub is right),

Can you link me to this? I searched but could not find what you are talking about.

Comment author: gwern 21 May 2013 11:53:41PM 0 points [-]

It's a reference to 'em cities', where the limiting resource will be a combination of electricity generation + cooling. Scandinava has dams and geothermal energy so cheap electricity (think why Iceland has aluminum smelters) but also cold weather and even colder oceans, so cheap cooling.

Comment author: SilasBarta 19 May 2013 09:23:37PM -1 points [-]

Agreed, but the options listed, sadly, don't help you there. If you use a tax advantaged savings vehicle, it's much harder to actually use the money before retirement. At best you can borrow from it (which i ended up doing as a buffer when switching careers) or take the withdraw penalty, which eliminates a large portion of the savings.

So I'd agree with keeping savings as a hedge against unemoyability, but against usIng the 401k etc methods the OP listed if that is your goal.