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Larks comments on Why is it rational to invest in retirement? I don't get it. - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Larks 16 May 2013 08:12:54PM 1 point [-]

the maximal retirement plan legal in my country (aprox 2000 dollars/month).

Which dystopian state is this, that caps retirement payouts? I can understand corrupt states stealing retirement money, but having an actual policy that none may have more than that?

Comment author: Lumifer 16 May 2013 09:19:39PM 2 points [-]

Which dystopian state is this, that caps retirement payouts?

I suspect that the OP is talking about what would in the US terms be called "defined benefit" plans -- as opposed to "defined contribution" plans (like 401(k), etc.)

Comment author: diegocaleiro 16 May 2013 08:52:35PM 0 points [-]

This is Brazil. I've checked now, and indeed: A aposentadoria pode variar de R$ 678,00 (salário mínimo) até R$ 4.159,00 (valor máximo corrigido anualmente). 10 Brazil reais = 4.93754 U.S. dollars

Is this not like this elsewhere?
Is anyone open to negotiating a formal marriage by the way? message me. I generally fear that maybe states will pay for longevity stuff, and my citizenship will put me out of play. Also, I want to live in Berkeley or Oxford.

Comment author: prase 16 May 2013 09:01:58PM 1 point [-]

I suppose the cap limits the pensions provided by the state and you can in principle buy a private life insurance to increase the payoff, right?

Comment author: diegocaleiro 16 May 2013 09:09:29PM 0 points [-]

Sure. Though I thought life insurance means something you get when you die. We have private enterprises that do retirement plans too. Maybe that is what you call "annuities", or not.

Comment author: Alsadius 17 May 2013 08:06:21AM 1 point [-]

Annuities refer to a fixed stream of payments for an extended term(life or a defined term, depending on the annuity). There's also conventional retirement accounts, that are just a big pile of stocks and bonds that you sell when you want cash. Neither is capped in any non-Communist country I've ever heard of.