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Prismattic comments on Why is it rational to invest in retirement? I don't get it. - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: elharo 17 May 2013 12:11:01AM 7 points [-]

Most people here live in rich countries - darn, hate to be the exception! - , and their state would happily provide them with at least the maximal retirement plan legal in my country (aprox 2000 dollars/month).

The richest country, the United States, does no such thing. Poverty among the elderly is a big problem here. I have two friends in the 70+ region, who are trying to skimp by on around $1000 a month in Social Security + medicare and food stamps. One is currently homeless. Both would like to find a job, but neither is medically able to work any more. And these are people who worked for a long time. Not everyone gets as much from the U.S. government as they do. I have another elderly friend who is selling her apartment in NYC and moving to Iowa to have enough money to live on.

I also have a few more retired elderly friends who are quite well off. This is because they were successful in their careers (some very successful) and saved a lot of money along the way. I can think of one other who's still actively working at a high-paying job.

The goal is to end up like the happy, well-off retired folks and not the ones living out of their cars or on the street.

Comment author: Prismattic 17 May 2013 01:25:34AM *  5 points [-]

The United States is actually only the 8th richest country by per capita income (PPP adjusted).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ListofcountriesbyGDP(PPP)per_capita

(No active link because of the damn parentheses)

Comment author: Nornagest 17 May 2013 01:58:37AM *  9 points [-]

You can escape parentheses with a backslash, like so:

[Wiki link](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_\(PPP\)_per_capita)

producing:

Wiki link

(You also need to escape underscores if you want to avoid toggling italics in body text, but it's not an issue in the destination field of links.)

Comment author: elharo 17 May 2013 09:12:12AM 2 points [-]

Thanks for the correction. I will update my thinking going forward.